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I know it's only a minor point of the article, but results drawn from a study involving just eight participants would not pass a peer review anywhere on the planet. You need about ten times as many data samples before coming to any definitive conclusions. (Having said that, I believe the conclusions would probably be similar in a larger study).
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Seems there's a bit of a straw man here, as I don't recall anyone in the original discussion arguing that the mode was a bad idea. Nor was anyone (that I recall) arguing that sex (and sexism) doesn't sell.
The controversy was always over calling out the sexist language used to describe the mode. Also, the study linked only concludes that 8 out of 8 people looked at the "Girlfriend Mode" banner, while only 7 out of the eight people looked at the rather bland wording "Co-op Design". I could do a study that shows the label "Free Sex Inside!" attracts the eye even more, but I'm not sure what that would prove. |
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| Darcy Nelson |
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"And those that were offended by the wording of "Girlfriend Mode" were not deterred from their interest in the product by that offense."
1 out of 1 people in my household were deterred from buying this product because they didn't appreciate the sexist implications in the wording of that feature. "Seems there's a bit of a straw man here, as I don't recall anyone in the original discussion arguing that the mode was a bad idea. " Sums up my thoughts exactly. |
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| Mike Weldon |
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Car companies will now be referring to automatic transmission as "girlfriend mode", so you don't have to worry about your little lady getting confused by all those pedals anymore.
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| Megan Swaine |
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So a study...with only 8 people in it...is supposed to make it okay to use casually sexist language when promoting a game?
"Play with friends" didn't get as much attention because it was BORING. Speaking as a writer, honestly, if you can't write better copy than THAT without resorting to sexist stereotypes, you should probably quit your day job. Also "Co-op Design" is totally ambiguous and doesn't even make any sense. |
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| Sean Scarfo |
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Sigh... I'm going to call this how I see it. The article is trying to say that by calling a game mode by a nick name, society is going to roll backwards 50+ years and assume women are incompetent. I'm sorry, even implying that is not doing anyone any justice.
When an idea or topic that promotes a woman's agenda and puts down a man (any man), then that's ok, but the second an accidental nick name for a 'game mode' is said that is SLIGHTLY politically incorrect, women are up in arms. When women can stop calling men's undershirts 'wife beaters', and will stop calling men 'pigs' for acting like alpha males, then I'll worry about political correctness. BTW, girlfriend mode probably was called that for a reason... every girlfriend I've ever had (including my now wife) has been less than game savvy at best, and didn't know how to learn how to play at worst. Don't get me wrong, each women has his or her own strengths (my wife saves peoples lives on a daily basis)... but STATISTICALLY... playing video games isn't one of them, which is usually driven by desire. |
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| James Cooley |
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"1 out of 1 people in my household were deterred from buying this product because they didn't appreciate the sexist implications in the wording of that feature."
Did you actually plan to buy it? Did you cancel an actual order? Did you play the first game? Basically, did an actual sale get canceled or one that wasn't going to occur anyway? I proudly boycott many things I wasn't going to buy anyway. Now I actually did refuse to buy Mass Effect 3. I joined a somewhat organized boycott of the game who felt the quality had suffered. I played both prior games and had saved characters ready to import into the final installment. What I did represented an actual lost sale. Looking at statistics by gender for gaming, it seems to be that overall males are the strong majority (roughly a 60/40 split). If one looks by genre, it may be even more pronounced with shooter games. Statistically, it is more likely that the seasoned player is male. Nor is this unusual. A friend has a tech review site that tracks his hits. It is over 90 percent male. In my household, the males tend to play the games. In my daughter's household, her husband plays them more than her. For whatever reason, more men play games. Now, Gearbox could have called their silly idea "sister mode" or "noob mode" or whatever. I simply question whether the offense is real or a teensy bit manufactured. There are far worse offenders out there. It is also funny that a game where gruesome death if perfectly OK generates articles because someone made a casual reference to "girlfriend mode". Killing nearly everything you meet in a game is fine, but don't make a lame joke about girls players. On the plus side, as least the female in-game player seems to wear roughly the same amount clothes as the three males. Oh wait, you get three men to play as -- but only one girl! Sexist! Now, am I pooh-poohing over-the-top sexism in games? Uh, no. One reason I didn't get Duke Nukem Forever because it seemed to treat women in overtly degrading ways. It was misogyny on parade. However, the irony is the voice actor for Duke went out of his way to note that the filthiest stuff came from the female writer. I also am sympathetic to women who get tired of dealing with male rudeness in online games. If it is any comfort, these jerks are just as annoying to the more mature men players who are not idiots. I gave up on a few online shooters for a while after dealing with jerks. |
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From what i heard there's also a hardcore tree with the necromanser so even if a increase bounding box so even when you missed you'd hit something.
Of course girlfriend mode will enrage and offend girls who are capable players while those that have a hard time and i mean even harder than needing to create your own scheme as i did back on ps2 those players would most likely play the old mario games because it just wasn't a priority for them. |
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| Ron Dippold |
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I know two people who are very interested in this feature. One doesn't have the hand-eye coordination (nerve damage) and one is nearly legally blind. Both male.
Alternatively, a quick poll of male gamer friends over several beers (for maximum honesty), with a sample size nearly as large as this study, shows that most were horrified at the idea of playing a game like B2 with their SOs because 1) there goes your 'me' time, 2) afraid of laughing at something sexist she won't find funny, 3) she might be better at it than you. The one female polled said she had no interest since Mists of Pandaria was coming out. Great idea, very bad off the cuff remark. |
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| Steven Christian |
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This is old news.
Though to add my 2c, my 'girlfriend' and I both pre-ordered the game before any news of a girlfriend mode was released. She admits that she is not very good at these games and maybe the Mechromancer will help here, but the class hasn't even been released yet, and I can't imagine that she would want to start over once she has started levelling a new character unless there were some fairly signifigant easy-mode benefits that would increase her enjoyment. Regardless of the class being added or not, we both have fun with the variety of classes, and any addition to this isn't a bad thing, especially with the brand new mechanics that the class introduces. In fact when I heard about this mode, I knew that we had made the right choice in pre-ordering the game already. |
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| Michael Josefsen |
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I've read several articles posted on this "controversy" and yet I'm still not convinced by the arguments that this was such a noteworthy case of sexism - if even a case of sexism at all. There's a lot of sexism in the industry and plenty of important things to discuss. This wasn't one of them.
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| Arthur De Martino |
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There isn't a "girlfriend mode" in Borderlands 2, but a class that bas a newbie friendly talent tree, it wasn't market as a "girlfriend mode" either, rather it was commentary made by one of the developters, referencing the name fans gave to the co-op mode in Mario Galaxy 2.
The fact people who had no idea of the context cried "sexism" shows the true colors of this wave of criticism. One must understand the thing they are decrying before labeling ideas, behaviours and commentaries. |
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| Christopher Engler |
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I think initiating less experienced gamers with an "assisted co-op mode" is a great idea, but phrasing aside, many many will treat it as an insult i.e. you're not very good at this game? Here, play this mode.
That being said, "Sidekick" would be a better moniker. |
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| Eric Geer |
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No official "girlfriend mode", no issue.
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| Justin Sawchuk |
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Hey its a good way to get free press and we have something like that for our game, think snuggle truck
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| Joe Wreschnig |
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For the record, the word "sexism" appears *not once* in the article.
Anyone in the comments complaining about how this "isn't sexism", please go wrestle with your personal demons and delusions - and maybe your literacy - elsewhere. It's making it impossible to have a real conversation about accessible and inviting games. |
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| Lyon Medina |
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Looking at it from the strictly male perspective (I am male in fact) I don't see much in the way of offense other than too great girl gamers, which there are large amount, getting offended by this.
The verbiage is clean. "Girlfriend" is not a putdown, racist, insult, offensive (other than its usage), and is more of a term that states care, maybe love, and a general like of the other person to want share something as intimate as playing a game cooperatively together. The developers were trying to make the game more accessible for couples too share something. Any person knows that teaching someone who doesn't play games to play a (difficult) game is very, very, very stressful. With this mode you make the road so much smoother and approachable. Now if you look at it from a different perspective and the amount of girl gamers who play shooters after this sky rockets, would there be that much of an issue? |
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| Konstantin Yavichev |
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Who cares? So it wasn't politically correct, big deal.
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| Terry Matthes |
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I'm sorry but this has gotten way way out of hand. It was an innocent remark that wasn't meant to offend anyone. For all those on their soap boxes shouting you need to save your voice for a cause that matters. This specific case is a waste of time for anyone to cry about except for those who crave attention at the price of publicly maming someone's character. Your not advancing any cause but the one that makes you sound like a thin skinned whinner.
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| Mike Jenkins |
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Faux outrage is really making some of you feel important, isn't it.
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| Titi Naburu |
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In sports car racing, the term "pro-am" refers to a team with both professional and amateur drivers share the same car. It's clearly gender-neutral.
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